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Started by LoneMateria, October 10, 2009, 06:34:43 PM

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LoneMateria

October 10, 2009, 06:34:43 PM
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143189/outrageous_oklahoma_law_will_post_details_of_women's_abortions_online_

Oklahoma has passed a new law stating anyone who gets an abortion has to fill out a questionnaire that will be posted online.  This includes the Mother's Age, Date of the Abortion, What county the abortion was performed in, Marital status, Race, Highest level of education, State they live in (or Country), and the total number of previous pregnancies.

Isn't this an invasion of privacy?  Is this considered unconstitutional?  I bet you people who want abortions will now be leaving the state to get them.  What is the point of such legislation?  Ugh this pisses me off.
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Whitney

#1
October 10, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
A friend was telling me about this last night.  I think it is an invasion of privacy and crosses the line of what a state can and cannot make people do.

Will

#2
October 10, 2009, 06:54:43 PM
I've heard rumblings of a DDoS against this site when it launches. While I'd never promote the idea of breaking the law, such an attack would be a very interesting method of righteous civil disobedience.
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LoneMateria

#3
October 10, 2009, 07:58:16 PM
Quote from: "Will"I've heard rumblings of a DDoS against this site when it launches. While I'd never promote the idea of breaking the law, such an attack would be a very interesting method of righteous civil disobedience.

:upset:  :upset:
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LARA

#4
October 11, 2009, 01:25:32 AM
QuoteLone Materia wrote:   I hope the people in Oklahoma are fighting this.

Damn, something else to put on the agenda.  I'm getting exhausted.

I've been here for about three years and sometimes I want to declare the whole state a wash. I know this isn't fair, really there are quite a few of us here fighting the good fight to keep things free, but my personal experience with Oklahoma is that it has a suspicious air of corruption and is just harsh in general.  And a portion of the population just can't seem pick up their own trash.

I'll refrain from going into more detail since this is the Happy Atheist Forum, but suffice it to say that this public abortion listing is just one of many problems a freethinker might encounter here.  To be fair, though I should note that I the two towns I've lived in were fairly small.  I'm just lucky I guess.   :P
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LoneMateria

#5
October 11, 2009, 07:15:30 AM
Hopefully it isn't as bad as Utah lol.  I just couldn't believe it when I saw it >.< I wanted to punch someone.
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Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

LARA

#6
October 14, 2009, 02:10:45 PM
QuoteLoneMateria wrote:

Hopefully it isn't as bad as Utah .

We (me and the mate) know some new transplants who lived in Utah.  And they said our area of Oklahoma is more religious than Utah.

That Ten Commandments monument?  It's kinda like a radiation symbol.

I can't find anymore links to the Oklahoma Abortion Law mentioned on Huffington Post except for one blog.  Sometimes data is made available on the net for research purposes, so if this information doesn't have names attached in any way, it's just information that can be used to debate either side of the abortion issue.  Since I can't find more facts on it, I'm not going to get pissed just yet.
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Big Mac

#7
October 14, 2009, 04:31:35 PM
If the info is anonymous I don't see an issue. It'd be interesting to see the ethnicity, age, etc. of the woman receiving an abortion.
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Ultima22689

#8
October 14, 2009, 05:30:22 PM
Agreed, if the info is anonymous it isn't really an issue.

LoneMateria

#9
October 14, 2009, 06:55:18 PM
Just because they don't have names now doesn't mean they wont amend it later.  I can see this as a get your foot in the door sorta thing then change it from there.
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Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

Ultima22689

#10
October 14, 2009, 06:59:14 PM
Quote from: "LoneMateria"Just because they don't have names now doesn't mean they wont amend it later.  I can see this as a get your foot in the door sorta thing then change it from there.

True, when it comes down to it i'm sure this isn't being done for research but instead making a shit list for all the godless heathens who would dare kill a baby. I hope this gets shot done if it hasn't been passed already.

Big Mac

#11
October 14, 2009, 07:02:01 PM
Quote from: "LoneMateria"Just because they don't have names now doesn't mean they wont amend it later.  I can see this as a get your foot in the door sorta thing then change it from there.

Meh, maybe it'll make people more responsible sexually in that case. Not that I'm in favor of it but this doesn't really affect me too much. It just gives Texan more reason to look down on Oklahoma aside from  OSU vs UT and other such things. Why is it that Oklahoma has thicker southern accents? What the hell is up with that?!?
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LoneMateria

#12
October 14, 2009, 07:09:37 PM
I doubt it will make anyone more sexually responsible.  Look at abstinence only education (especially the religiously inspired type).  Its not effective at stopping teens from humping even if they make God hat them.  This is just a public way to try and embarrass  women to their families/friends.  Gossip will come from this and nothing more.  Imagine a woman who goes to the doctor and finds out she had a miscarriage.  Her family doesn't trust her for whatever reason and go to that site and find out someone had an abortion the last time she went to the doctor.  Shit can easily fly out of control whether or not she had an abortion.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl

Big Mac

#13
October 14, 2009, 07:13:42 PM
Quote from: "LoneMateria"I doubt it will make anyone more sexually responsible.  Look at abstinence only education (especially the religiously inspired type).  Its not effective at stopping teens from humping even if they make God hat them.  This is just a public way to try and embarrass  women to their families/friends.  Gossip will come from this and nothing more.  Imagine a woman who goes to the doctor and finds out she had a miscarriage.  Her family doesn't trust her for whatever reason and go to that site and find out someone had an abortion the last time she went to the doctor.  Shit can easily fly out of control whether or not she had an abortion.

Shame, pain, and humiliation can be powerful motivators to not do something. I'm not advocating this dirty laundry airing but it could help reduce the unwanted baby/abortion/STD problem.
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?

LoneMateria

#14
October 14, 2009, 07:18:16 PM
Again I don't think its a deterrent.  Kids will hump no matter what.
Quote from: "Richard Lederer"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages
Quote from: "Demosthenes"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true.
Quote from: "Oscar Wilde"Truth, in matters of religion, is simpl
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